Who is Betsey:Jane?

BETSEY is Elizabeth Cody Newenhuyse, Editorial Director at Moody Publishers. JANE is Jane Johnson Struck, former Editor of Today's Christian Woman magazine. We're friends and neighbors who love getting together to ponder relevant matters of the heart, the home, and our world at large. Each Wednesday we tackle a new topic. Join our conversation!

Wednesday, October 27

We're Betsey and Jane, and We Approve This Message

jane: Betsey, Rich and I did something we've never done before: voted with absentee ballots. We thought we might be out of town on November 2 (we won't, as it turns out), so we decided to give this option a go. I have to admit, it felt weird to mail ballots. How do we really know our votes count? What if they're lost or misplaced or whatever?

Worries aside, since I've already voted, the political hoopla -- bold campaign signs planted in front yards, inflammatory political spots blasted on the air waves -- is anticlimactic. And I'm terribly annoyed by those robo-calls that intrude every evening as we sit down to eat. Enough already!

Actually, I know I'll miss the ritual of voting at our polling place: signing my name, entering the booth, using the stylus, even getting that “I Voted” sticker afterward. Every single time I've cast my vote, I've felt a flush of pride in our political process and deep gratitude for our freedoms.

But all this election talk reminds me of how I first learned you and Fritz had moved into our little village. Rich and I were going in to vote, and you and Fritz were on your way out. Remember?

betsey: Yes, I do! Coming out of the church near both of our neighborhoods, proudly wearing our “I Voted” stickers. I love voting at the polling place, seeing the dedicated election judges, filling out our ballots. It feels live and timeless and civic in an electronic age, you know? We used to take Amanda with us when we voted in our former precinct. We told her as long as she stayed quiet she could come, and that voting was Very Important. I really think she absorbed that message and today is pretty well-informed.

jane: When I was growing up, my extended family conducted lively political discussions during the passing of the mashed potatoes and gravy. My immigrant grandparents, who had lost all but their home in the Great Depression, were loyal Democrats -- they loved Hubert Humphrey. My parents, on the other hand, were Republicans (my mom a fairly new convert, having been an avid Kennedy supporter). They tried their hardest to convince my grandfather, in particular, of the errors of his loyal union ways . . . but the debate never did end in their favor. With his strong Norwegian accent, my grandfather obstinately articulated his views; there was no talking him out of them, thank you very much.

Those spirited dinnertime discussions were rich and instructive, even energizing for me as a child. But I also learned heated debate usually doesn't change someone's mind; it only causes a person to become more entrenched. What was it like in your house?

betsey: I have vivid memories of my dad yelling at the TV whenever the President came on -- no matter the man or the party! My parents leaned Republican, but it was more the GOP of their class and era -- more moderate and well-mannered. (Think “I Like Ike.”) Mom was a political science major -- and Dad was opinionated -- so I grew up in a home very conversant with current affairs. I have a very early memory of Mom watching the McCarthy hearings on TV in the ‘50s -- and twenty years after we were all caught up in the Watergate drama. But we didn’t really argue among ourselves.

jane: I still remember the1960 John F. Kennedy/Richard M. Nixon election, even though I was only seven. My mother had me wear a pro-Kennedy campaign hat into what I soon discovered was a very pro-Nixon classroom! My parents were on opposing sides that year, and my mom was playful (and sometimes over-the-top) in the methods she used to change my dad's mind.

Thankfully, I don't have to pull any "October surprises" or "dirty tricks" on Rich; we're in the same camp. I don't know how I'd handle it if we were like Mary Matalin and James Carville. Which makes me wonder how those two political operatives have managed to pull off a successful marriage despite being such rabid, vocal polar opposites. What about you and Fritz? Have you ever strongly disagreed on a candidate or issue?

betsey: Fritz and I tend to agree, although he shades more consistently to one side than I do and thinks I bounce capriciously around from one camp to another! There was one presidential election when I voted for a third-party candidate and he for one of the major-party guys. (Both lost!) But overall, I’m a solid independent. And I think Carville and Matalin manage because . . . it’s given them a pretty good living, I’m guessing!

Fritz and I have never really had a serious disagreement about an issue. I’ve known homes where couples did, and it’s no fun, particularly in a presidential election when one spouse is exulting because their guy won and the other is dejected because their guy didn’t.

Jane, I’ll ask you: Do you ever discuss politics with any of your friends? I know you and I don’t -- I think we’d find we agree on some things and not others -- but sometimes it’s nice to be in a “politics free” zone.

jane: Especially this time of year! In my circles, at least, politics seems to be one of those topics you avoid -- such as talking about how much money you earn. It's the “don't ask, don't tell” policy.

Frankly, sometimes I wish certain individuals in my Facebook network would adhere to this "don't tell" policy too, because I'm clearly NOT ASKING. I can't stand it when someone consistently uses Facebook as a platform for political name-calling and snarkiness toward a differing opinion.

But just think, by the time our next blog comes out, this campaign craziness will be over -- for a while. Before long, we'll be having our fill of presidential campaigning. Well, rock the vote next Tuesday, Betsey. And don't forget to grab an extra “I Voted” sticker for me!

betsey: If I see another campaign ad with that ominous music and an unflattering image of whoever the “bad guy” is . . . the barrage seems worse than ever this election cycle. And I completely agree about the abuse of Facebook as a political platform. But yes, I will vote and slap that sticker on my coat. Then I’ll go home, turn on the TV and, in Dad’s grand tradition, yell at the politicians! After all . . . they’re working for us.

Wednesday, October 20

Coming Clean About Cleaning

betsey: Jane, I know both you and I hosted guests this past weekend, although you went the full-dinner route and I opted for dessert-after-the-restaurant. However, Fritz and I both cleaned feverishly anyway. I think it’s a gift to your guests to welcome them to a glowing, well-ordered home. Certainly one can debate about cleaning upstairs when company comes (I say yes, because sooner or later you’ll have to do it anyway) or the right way to “speed clean” (shoving unsightly piles under beds). But I admit
I’m a little uncomfortable with the mantra: "People don’t care how your house looks, they just want to see you."
I mean, I do care how someone’s home looks – not that it has to be luxurious, but that the host has taken some time and care to clear clutter, put away kids’ shoes, empty the bathroom trash – that kind of thing. What do you think?

jane: After you mentioned emptying the bathroom trash basket, I had this sinking feeling I forgot to empty mine the last time you and Fritz came over for dinner. Oops! I'm really good about cleaning the “powder room,” as we call it, but I can't say I always remember to empty that trash basket, which is tucked inside the vanity cabinet (now you know where to look!).

Speaking of powder rooms, I need to vent. I've noticed a strange, unexplained pattern emerge in my marriage of almost 34 years:

Every time I clean the guest bathroom, He Who Shall Remain Nameless is drawn to its toilet like a moth to a very bright, sparkling flame.
This happened yet again last Friday, a few hours after I'd spent a fair amount of time Lysol-ing in there. Maybe I should save the bathroom cleaning until the very last moment. But then I'm afraid I'll have to do that “speed cleaning” thing, and that would really stress me out . . .

I suspect my beloved's simply obeying one of those mysterious, immutable laws of male behavior – like using the restroom to catch up on his reading. Anyway, the half-bath once again required a good once-over. All “evidences” of activity had to be, ahem, eliminated.

The truth is, cleaning a bathroom is NOT my favorite task. No, I'd rather go grocery shopping during peak hours any day of the week.

betsey: I freely admit that I like to clean. Fritz and I have cleaned house as our Saturday ritual for, well, just about all of our marriage. I find it meditative; I like the feeling of getting reacquainted with my house as I dust the colored glass on the windowsill or arrange apples in a nice bowl or sweep leaves off our front porch. (Really yucky stuff gets offloaded to my beloved.) I also like the tangible, physical quality of doing housework – maybe because I deal so much in words, abstractions, things floating around in electronic space. And he and I use the time to discuss and plan and catch up in a way that we can’t during the week. When do you clean? I’m always curious about people’s routines.

jane: Well, finally, here's something we differ on, Betsey! I DON'T find cleaning meditative – unless I'm dusting books or polishing a furniture piece my dad crafted for us. Basically, housework is exactly that: work. And its results are ephemeral. It's as though you live in Brigadoon or Camelot.
One moment you're happy-ever-aftering in the glow of your spotless house; the next, poof! That Shining Moment evaporates.
Don't get me wrong; I love my house clean. I love it decluttered. But I'm constantly battling the proliferation of dog fur and dirt. 
 
Here's another way we differ: Cleaning has never been a Saturday ritual in our marriage. Since I always worked part-time, I cleaned and grocery shopped during the week. I still do it that way so Rich and I are fairly errand-free on weekends. However, sometimes my motivation to clean wanes a bit . . . okay, a lot. I've been known to joke that we need to invite someone over so I'll feel pressured to clean. Either that, or put the house up for sale!
 
betsey: The worst, though, is when you think you’re clean and then go to someone else’s house that is so shiny-clean it almost hurts. You wonder if anyone even lives in the place. Then you come back home and go, Eewww.
 
jane: Or, then you have the shiny clean-house people over to yours, as we did last weekend. We entertained dear friends, the sweetest, most gracious folks ever. Whenever they invite us over, their lovely home is immaculate. So when it's our turn to host, I worry about mine lacking the same sparkle factor. 
I sweep and "Bona" our floors, yet ten minutes later the hardwood's sporting water spots and dog drool.
I vacuum dog fur only to discover even more fur has exercised squatters' rights and taken residence under our recliners and kitchen table. It's hopeless. Of course, as Rich reminds me, our friends don't own two huge, mess-producing beasts like we do.
 
betsey: “Sparkle factor” – that was the idea I was searching for. Our house doesn’t have that either and I’ve wondered about the secret of achieving it. For example, I realize with The Floor, there are little paw marks all over (particularly around the tables where we eat . . . ). It isn’t dirt per se; it’s just “dog traffic.” And I can’t tell Lucy to take off her shoes like I do Fritz. We Bona too but I’ve heard you’re not supposed to do that too often.
Years ago I had a hilarious conversation with a colleague about if we were "secretly dirty" in our housekeeping practices.
Of course, one’s mother or, more often, mother-in-law can make one feel that way. Once in our old house my MIL got down on her hands and knees and scrubbed the grille at the bottom of our fridge. 

jane: Oh, Betsey, if my MIL had ever done that, I would have been crushed by the implication behind that act! Not to mention really, really irked.

In my younger days I was intimidated by my MIL's housekeeping and cooking prowess. Of course I darn well made sure our living quarters were spit-clean before my in-laws landed on our doorstep. Except one time they surprised us by arriving a day early, and a HUGE, unmistakable patch of dog fur (which I planned to vacuum right before their arrival) blanketed our living-room carpet --  in plain view. Busted! 
 
My mother has always been a fastidious housekeeper. She still keeps to a rigid fall- and spring-cleaning regimen, with help from my dad: wiping down walls and baseboards, washing wallpaper, laundering and ironing all bedding and curtains twice a year. Do you and Fritz do this, Betsey? (Please tell me you don't!)

betsey: Not twice a year. I used to do spring cleaning more intentionally, taking books off the bookshelves and dusting them, airing bedding and pillows. I also used to wash walls but it would leave streaks so I decided to let the grime have its way. I’ll still do the “occasional” stuff, but now it’s more when I’m seized with a fit of the “shoulds.” I do not now, nor have I ever, ironed bedding!

But I do cherish that One Shining Moment, as you so aptly call it, when we can stand and bask in the perfection of our homes. Until the dogs and husbands come along, that is. Take cover!